Thirst (2009 Korea)

**Jester217300** · 06-18-2010 12:41 PM

Shipping from Korea isn't that bad, I'd just buy a copy.

I thought the movie sucked so I'm glad I only got the UK release.

**cheez avenger** · 06-18-2010 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jester217300

Shipping from Korea isn't that bad, I'd just buy a copy.

I thought the movie sucked so I'm glad I only got the UK release.

Thanks!!!!!!1!

**kannisto** · 06-22-2010 04:12 AM

Got mine today. It's a region free BD 50:

Summary for drive G: (AnyDVD 6.6.6.0)
HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20N XL05 [serial no removed]
Drive (Hardware) Region: 2

Media is a Blu-Ray disc.

Total size: 23733536 sectors (46354 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: THIRST
Media is AACS protected!
AACS MKB version 7
Removed AACS copy protection!
Blu-ray disc is region free!
Removed UOPs!

Case Pics:

More info will be added here later. I'll try to get some comparison screencaps between the Korean and UK releases also.

**kannisto** · 06-22-2010 09:20 AM

Korean release:

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                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(KR) Thirst                                                     AVC     2:27:40 38,480,965,632  48,600,364,708  34.74   28.95   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3188Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THIRST
Disc Size:      48,600,364,708 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:27:40 (h:m:s)
Size:                   38,480,965,632 bytes
Total Bitrate:          34.74 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28950 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Korean          3188 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3188 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit / DN -1dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Korean          384 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -1dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Korean          384 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -1dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         14.065 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Korean          12.821 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00017.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:27:40.852     38,480,965,632  34,742          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:22.882     23,372 kbps     43,752 kbps     00:05:38.296    37,527 kbps     00:05:37.795    35,781 kbps     00:05:35.793    121,836 bytes   418,682 bytes   00:05:41.758    
2               0:06:22.882     0:06:17.627     27,349 kbps     39,967 kbps     00:11:23.015    36,575 kbps     00:11:23.015    34,283 kbps     00:11:17.635    142,586 bytes   376,716 bytes   00:10:02.602    
3               0:12:40.509     0:05:53.436     28,878 kbps     41,491 kbps     00:12:58.486    36,697 kbps     00:12:51.312    34,802 kbps     00:12:51.312    150,557 bytes   365,767 bytes   00:15:13.370    
4               0:18:33.946     0:05:45.595     31,428 kbps     42,142 kbps     00:22:31.350    36,014 kbps     00:22:31.350    34,677 kbps     00:22:30.015    163,852 bytes   353,566 bytes   00:21:09.393    
5               0:24:19.541     0:04:25.223     28,900 kbps     43,010 kbps     00:26:52.319    36,044 kbps     00:26:13.280    34,334 kbps     00:26:51.651    150,673 bytes   362,194 bytes   00:26:11.111    
6               0:28:44.764     0:07:48.926     30,128 kbps     42,848 kbps     00:28:49.519    38,823 kbps     00:28:46.725    35,308 kbps     00:28:47.642    157,072 bytes   326,585 bytes   00:31:42.734    
7               0:36:33.691     0:08:40.102     30,895 kbps     41,329 kbps     00:37:57.316    35,907 kbps     00:36:34.192    35,018 kbps     00:36:34.233    161,071 bytes   343,705 bytes   00:36:41.324    
8               0:45:13.794     0:08:56.786     30,106 kbps     37,472 kbps     00:52:52.586    35,827 kbps     00:52:52.294    34,970 kbps     00:52:50.500    156,958 bytes   347,795 bytes   00:46:00.340    
9               0:54:10.580     0:05:35.960     29,889 kbps     39,010 kbps     00:56:35.266    34,744 kbps     00:56:16.790    33,727 kbps     00:57:26.901    155,825 bytes   359,524 bytes   00:58:31.007    
10              0:59:46.541     0:05:07.515     29,974 kbps     38,580 kbps     01:01:17.799    35,355 kbps     01:01:17.715    34,515 kbps     01:01:17.757    156,271 bytes   347,606 bytes   01:01:31.479    
11              1:04:54.056     0:06:38.356     30,104 kbps     38,049 kbps     01:06:03.334    34,168 kbps     01:10:24.303    33,777 kbps     01:10:20.341    156,947 bytes   340,107 bytes   01:04:55.057    
12              1:11:32.413     0:06:06.783     28,918 kbps     41,398 kbps     01:13:32.157    37,086 kbps     01:13:31.824    35,076 kbps     01:13:30.155    150,767 bytes   304,891 bytes   01:11:54.977    
13              1:17:39.196     0:07:10.263     29,831 kbps     42,371 kbps     01:17:46.703    36,386 kbps     01:22:05.879    35,376 kbps     01:22:05.879    155,523 bytes   350,766 bytes   01:24:13.840    
14              1:24:49.459     0:08:57.036     31,016 kbps     39,689 kbps     01:29:49.550    35,625 kbps     01:31:25.313    35,232 kbps     01:31:20.016    161,701 bytes   377,863 bytes   01:32:07.230    
15              1:33:46.495     0:08:44.982     31,876 kbps     40,240 kbps     01:35:01.112    35,398 kbps     01:36:27.323    34,905 kbps     01:36:28.949    166,188 bytes   340,960 bytes   01:36:30.159    
16              1:42:31.478     0:04:24.514     32,104 kbps     34,653 kbps     01:46:09.696    33,766 kbps     01:46:09.654    33,051 kbps     01:46:35.055    167,377 bytes   344,945 bytes   01:46:10.697    
17              1:46:55.992     0:08:10.281     31,132 kbps     39,428 kbps     01:52:56.060    35,843 kbps     01:52:54.851    34,631 kbps     01:52:53.975    162,310 bytes   354,679 bytes   01:52:58.188    
18              1:55:06.274     0:05:06.723     31,263 kbps     42,154 kbps     01:57:13.359    37,845 kbps     01:55:38.181    35,615 kbps     01:55:36.512    162,990 bytes   369,843 bytes   01:57:33.671    
19              2:00:12.997     0:04:55.253     32,114 kbps     34,573 kbps     02:00:44.445    33,497 kbps     02:00:44.445    32,985 kbps     02:04:41.098    167,426 bytes   316,054 bytes   02:04:41.265    
20              2:05:08.250     0:06:11.496     29,270 kbps     41,042 kbps     02:06:52.187    35,172 kbps     02:07:36.190    34,568 kbps     02:08:20.651    152,600 bytes   395,231 bytes   02:08:27.783    
21              2:11:19.746     0:08:00.771     26,811 kbps     39,480 kbps     02:12:22.684    35,862 kbps     02:12:35.614    35,336 kbps     02:12:31.151    139,783 bytes   367,185 bytes   02:17:04.132    
22              2:19:20.518     0:04:10.750     24,815 kbps     38,341 kbps     02:22:31.584    36,508 kbps     02:22:27.747    35,537 kbps     02:22:25.537    129,374 bytes   415,027 bytes   02:23:19.257    
23              2:23:31.269     0:04:09.582     5,062 kbps      13,163 kbps     02:27:09.612    12,559 kbps     02:27:06.400    11,687 kbps     02:27:03.856    26,396 bytes    165,673 bytes   02:27:10.488    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00017.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8860.769                28,951                  32,065,701,088  174,394,075     
00017.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       kor (Korean)            8860.769                3,188                   3,531,183,308   20,572,399      
00017.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             kor (Korean)            8860.769                384                     425,323,008     2,492,127       
00017.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             kor (Korean)            8860.769                384                     425,323,008     2,492,127       
00017.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             kor (Korean)            8860.769                13                      14,200,773      83,471          
00017.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8860.769                14                      15,578,264      90,637

UK release:

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                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(UK) Thirst                                                     AVC     2:13:55 34,876,299,264  43,494,770,434  34.72   29.81   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3144Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THIRST
Disc Size:      43,494,770,434 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 2:13:55 (h:m:s)
Size:                   34,876,299,264 bytes
Total Bitrate:          34.72 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29814 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Korean          3144 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3144 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         19.079 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00008.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:13:55.068     34,876,299,264  34,724          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:16.084     27,907 kbps     42,916 kbps     00:00:25.900    38,024 kbps     00:01:23.082    37,606 kbps     00:01:18.703    145,478 bytes   682,715 bytes   00:05:40.631    
2               0:06:16.084     0:09:45.459     30,370 kbps     40,639 kbps     00:12:29.123    34,636 kbps     00:09:28.901    34,148 kbps     00:09:29.694    158,333 bytes   737,554 bytes   00:12:21.657    
3               0:16:01.543     0:09:50.589     30,607 kbps     53,854 kbps     00:25:08.590    35,542 kbps     00:24:02.774    33,318 kbps     00:24:00.856    159,573 bytes   771,480 bytes   00:24:20.375    
4               0:25:52.133     0:07:48.176     30,797 kbps     40,807 kbps     00:26:54.279    35,398 kbps     00:26:21.997    34,914 kbps     00:26:21.830    160,560 bytes   569,337 bytes   00:27:40.909    
5               0:33:40.309     0:08:16.329     30,241 kbps     38,887 kbps     00:41:35.409    34,200 kbps     00:41:35.242    33,312 kbps     00:41:42.374    157,665 bytes   537,081 bytes   00:34:59.931    
6               0:41:56.639     0:08:48.986     29,850 kbps     38,077 kbps     00:45:25.764    31,896 kbps     00:49:18.538    31,584 kbps     00:49:15.953    155,624 bytes   616,904 bytes   00:42:21.455    
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8               1:00:30.335     0:13:36.440     29,775 kbps     43,652 kbps     01:08:36.821    33,851 kbps     01:08:33.484    32,294 kbps     01:08:31.023    155,233 bytes   577,959 bytes   01:10:53.832    
9               1:14:06.775     0:08:25.880     30,725 kbps     47,750 kbps     01:22:17.057    38,162 kbps     01:22:27.400    34,118 kbps     01:22:22.395    160,187 bytes   627,544 bytes   01:22:31.863    
10              1:22:32.656     0:07:59.228     30,786 kbps     40,200 kbps     01:28:38.855    33,579 kbps     01:29:11.137    32,620 kbps     01:29:23.900    160,503 bytes   590,117 bytes   01:22:36.868    
11              1:30:31.884     0:05:13.604     31,872 kbps     39,033 kbps     01:34:04.013    35,542 kbps     01:33:13.004    33,863 kbps     01:33:12.920    166,169 bytes   596,262 bytes   01:32:32.046    
12              1:35:45.489     0:06:45.071     30,007 kbps     47,444 kbps     01:38:59.892    33,002 kbps     01:38:59.892    32,066 kbps     01:35:47.908    156,442 bytes   702,160 bytes   01:39:00.476    
13              1:42:30.561     0:09:51.257     31,209 kbps     50,147 kbps     01:44:18.085    34,818 kbps     01:44:18.085    33,261 kbps     01:45:15.976    162,710 bytes   592,523 bytes   01:43:53.852    
14              1:52:21.818     0:08:10.865     30,898 kbps     40,181 kbps     01:53:51.407    34,563 kbps     01:54:48.715    33,183 kbps     01:54:43.751    161,086 bytes   676,899 bytes   01:55:07.400    
15              2:00:32.683     0:09:12.301     28,764 kbps     47,404 kbps     02:05:37.321    32,292 kbps     02:09:28.969    31,307 kbps     02:08:38.127    149,963 bytes   703,275 bytes   02:02:05.943    
16              2:09:44.985     0:04:10.083     16,658 kbps     38,947 kbps     02:13:19.992    36,447 kbps     02:13:18.490    35,049 kbps     02:13:15.195    86,875 bytes    499,971 bytes   02:13:20.993    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00008.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     8034.985                29,814                  29,944,425,786  162,854,379     
00008.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       kor (Korean)            8034.985                3,144                   3,157,573,616   18,414,120      
00008.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8034.985                19                      19,162,677      109,670

**kannisto** · 06-22-2010 11:39 AM

Some comparison screencaps, Korean release on the left and UK release on the right. There's a major color difference with the Korean release having more subtle / neutral colors and the UK release having more boosted / bluish colors.

**KSC2303** · 06-22-2010 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by kannisto

Some comparison screencaps, Korean release on the left and UK release on the right. There's a major color difference with the Korean release having more subtle / neutral colors and the UK release having more boosted / bluish colors.

Thats interesting... I saw it theatrically last year but I cant remember which color scheme is closer to the way I saw it. I do remember that Thirst's visual design/cinematography was way more subtle than Park Chan Wook's other films, so I'm inclined to believe the neutral colors are probably the director's intent. Maybe he color timed the director's cut differently similar to the fade to black Lady Vengeance?

If you get a chance, I'd be interested in seeing picture comparisons from the latter part of the movie. Specifically the scenes in the apartment where the whites are very dominate, like the final pictures on the dvdbeaver review http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews48/thirst.htm

**zombeaner** · 06-22-2010 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by KSC2303

Thats interesting... I saw it theatrically last year but I cant remember which color scheme is closer to the way I saw it. I do remember that Thirst's visual design/cinematography was way more subtle than Park Chan Wook's other films, so I'm inclined to believe the neutral colors are probably the director's intent. Maybe he color timed the director's cut differently similar to the fade to black Lady Vengeance?

The blue seems more accurate to how I saw it here in the US. I remember thinking that the color timing was severe.

**kannisto** · 06-23-2010 02:39 AM

Here are some more caps, including some from the white-dominated latter part of the movie, again Korean release on the left and UK on the right side. Beaver's caps seem to have a similar color scheme as the UK BD, perhaps the director's cut is indeed done with a different color scheme on purpose. I noticed a bit different framing in one of the shots too.

The Korean release has hardcoded Korean subs on the few parts of the movie that have English dialogue. One cap shows it.

**erack** · 06-23-2010 06:47 AM

Wow striking difference, thanks for the comparisons.

Random guess: The blue tinted version is uncorrected raw film scan colors, while the more neutral colors were chosen by the director when he went back to do the directors cut.

**kobeson** · 07-06-2010 01:47 AM

So how is the DC version of the film compared to the TC?

**kannisto** · 07-06-2010 04:06 AM

I still haven't had time to watch it, been rather busy lately. I'll add some comments soon after watching it sometime this week.

**kannisto** · 07-09-2010 04:04 AM

I watched the Korean director's cut this week. It's been a few months since I watched the theatrical cut on the UK BD and I couldn't tell for sure which scenes were new in the director's cut. It didn't seem that much different but all the scenes seemed to fit in quite well so there was nothing that felt extraneous.

Still, the movie seemed to have some problems with story flow in the middle section. I didn't like too much those parts where the "husband character" makes appearances.

PQ was good for the most part but I felt that the black levels were perhaps a bit elevated on this director's cut and the colors are rather pale which is probably the director's intention. Especially in low light scenes the image looks a bit filtered somehow which I felt with the UK release as well. Audio was fine throughout.

I didn't feel like the director's cut added anything especially important over the theatrical cut and the PQ is quite similar except for the drastically different color scheme.

**kobeson** · 07-12-2010 10:57 PM

Thanks for the honest review - I feared I would have to double dip but I might not bother. I loved the film though, but agree it got a bit strange in the middle - I have only watched the film once will have to revisit soon. It was in my top few films from 09 though

I do remember thinking the colours of the theat cut suited the film, it's intersting that the DC looks so different!

**englishbob** · 07-19-2010 03:46 AM

You would hope that the domestic Korean release is more director approved than any other territory release.

I always believe its worth getting the films from the actual country of origin, even some Hollywood films have been botched on UK release as they pass through other distributors.

Got THIRST on order from YesAsia, can't wait. I really wish the Koreans would up their game on Blu-Ray, I would like to buy all of Park's films from there, I have held off so far from the other botched releases from the US and UK.

**cheez avenger** · 08-14-2010 12:15 AM

Finally got around to this director's cut version and it was awesome!

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