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Old 11-05-2009, 12:51 AM
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Default Battleship Potemkin (Nordic - AtlanticFilm)

Battleship Potemkin is currently the oldest movie released on Blu-ray (release date in e.g. Sweden and Finland was 28th of October).

I received this today from Finland (from filmifriikki.fi). I paid 17.13€ for the disc after VAT reduction and 5.80€ for shipping (together with Passchendaele, another AtlanticFilm release). Filmifriikki hasn't indicated this being in stock so far, instead they've indicated 2-4 weeks delivery time from the beginning, but they shipped mine last Saturday, one day after I placed the order.

Shop links:
http://www.filmifriikki.fi/product.p...product=701772
http://english.megastore.se/template...itemid=2130331

Case pics:


These covers are the Finnish version, there's also a Swedish version and perhaps Norwegian and Danish versions. The back cover says that this is the first time this movie is being released as digitally restored version on Blu-ray and DVD.

The movie is encoded in 1080i50 AVC. Audio language is Silent / Russian and subtitles are in Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish and Danish. It's a silent film with music and with textual explanations apparing every now and then, lack of English subs might not be a too big problem if one knows the movie already. I haven't seen the film ever before myself. The disc is region free, but requires a playback environment that works with 50hz / 25 fps content.

Extras: A documentary about the film's history (lots of different versions exist) and the restoration in German + some Russian with subtitles in the same Nordic languages, 42m:20s. Presented in HD, 1080i50 MPEG-2, 1.33:1. Not English friendly. This is found in the pop-up menu only, not mentioned in the back cover at all. The documentary seems very informative regarding the history of the film and on how and why many different versions were made.

BD info scan:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(FI) Battleship Potemkin                                        AVC     1:08:46 8,500,893,696   13,861,976,922  16.48   15.00   DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Battleship Potemkin
Disc Size:      13,861,976,922 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00005.MPLS
Size:                   8,500,893,696 bytes
Length:                 1:08:46 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          16.48 Mbps
Description:            

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        15000 kbps          1080i / 25 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             Russian         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Undetermined    4.346 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Undetermined    4.222 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Undetermined    4.130 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Undetermined    4.268 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00005.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:08:46.120     8,500,893,696   16,482          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:13:51.880     14,461 kbps     28,930 kbps     00:08:35.160    25,617 kbps     00:08:33.640    25,185 kbps     00:08:33.760    72,304 bytes    468,961 bytes   00:05:44.599    
2               0:13:51.880     0:17:17.520     16,061 kbps     32,942 kbps     00:28:55.360    30,349 kbps     00:28:53.560    27,701 kbps     00:14:05.760    80,305 bytes    510,236 bytes   00:22:09.240    
3               0:31:09.400     0:10:51.800     13,819 kbps     28,852 kbps     00:41:49.880    25,920 kbps     00:41:48.280    24,311 kbps     00:41:43.960    69,095 bytes    488,011 bytes   00:37:40.160    
4               0:42:01.200     0:10:51.000     17,179 kbps     30,803 kbps     00:44:22.200    28,671 kbps     00:43:54.160    27,960 kbps     00:43:51.240    85,895 bytes    522,897 bytes   00:52:48.720    
5               0:52:52.200     0:15:53.919     13,636 kbps     35,758 kbps     01:05:57.040    29,665 kbps     01:04:09.080    27,138 kbps     01:04:08.600    68,181 bytes    507,020 bytes   01:03:41.560    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00005.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     4125.960                15,001                  7,736,473,215   42,106,522      
00005.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             rus (Russian)           4125.960                640                     330,081,096     1,934,083       
00005.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             und (Undetermined)      4125.960                4                       2,241,274       13,114          
00005.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             und (Undetermined)      4125.960                4                       2,177,478       12,763          
00005.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             und (Undetermined)      4125.960                4                       2,130,262       12,516          
00005.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             und (Undetermined)      4125.960                4                       2,201,516       12,902
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:44 PM
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I haven't yet watched the movie in full, but I think the PQ is pretty good for a film that's 84 years old, good clarity and detail but quite many scratches etc. in the image.

Apparently this restoration was done by Deutsche Kinemathek Museum für Film und Fernsehen, whose logo appears before the movie and on the case. I believe they've done a meticulous job and used the best film elements that could be acquired.
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shame the disc lacks English subtitles. I'd love to have the title on BD.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:51 AM
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shame the disc lacks English subtitles. I'd love to have the title on BD.
Yeah, they could have probably sold plenty more if they included English subs too. Maybe some other studios will release it on BD as well sooner or later.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:44 AM
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it will undoubtedly come out later across the world.
They most likely didn't include English subs due to contactual obligations.
I'm sure the other distributors will get the same restored elements, and do their own thing to them.
Kino has the rights in the US.
They are probably already working on it since it is such a seminal film.
thanks Kannisto for the screenshots--
they look amazing for this film.
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