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Old 07-17-2009, 04:04 PM
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Default Goemon [JP 2009]


Warner Japan will release Goemon, the latest film from Casshern director Kazuaki Kiriya on Blu-ray Disc on October 9th. It will be available as a standard edition (one BD) and a limited edition 'Ultimate Box' with a bonus BD and a storyboard booklet.
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/n...17_303204.html
http://blog.affenheimtheater.de/en/2...-disc-october/


Probably won't have English subtitles but this one should look great in HD!
Distribution rights for Germany and France have already been sold, TF1 Video will release it in France in November.
http://www.asianblurayguide.com/deta..._japan_france/
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:24 AM
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Got this today, no English subs as expected.

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It looks heavily stylized like Casshern so the PQ is probably a bit varied. Looked very interesting from what I managed to peak so far.

I think it's region free but AnyDVD HD couldn't determine it reliably and I have no region B hw players. There are no region A symbols to be found on the case or disc anyway and it's released by Warner so I think it's most likely region free. Seems to work also when I set AnyDVD HD to emulate region B.

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Summary for drive G: (AnyDVD 6.5.8.7)
HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20N XL05 [serial no removed]
Drive (Hardware) Region: 2

Media is a Blu-Ray disc.

Total size: 23435968 sectors (45773 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: GOEMON_DISC1
Media is AACS protected!
AACS MKB version 14
Removed AACS copy protection!
Can't determine region code!
Removed UOPs!
BD Info scan:
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
(JP) Goemon                                                     AVC     2:07:51 40,035,219,456  47,993,091,814  41.75   31.46   Dolby TrueHD 6.1 4000Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     GOEMON_DISC1
Disc Size:      47,993,091,814 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Size:                   40,035,219,456 bytes
Length:                 2:07:51 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          41.75 Mbps
Description:            

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        31462 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video        609 kbps            480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Japanese        4000 kbps       6.1 / 48 kHz / 4000 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese        192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese        192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        24.162 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        2.273 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00001.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:07:51.664     40,035,219,456  40,034          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:07:44.463     33,517 kbps     53,464 kbps     00:04:39.112    39,133 kbps     00:02:11.506    36,762 kbps     00:07:07.009    174,725 bytes   934,491 bytes   00:06:34.102    
2               0:07:44.463     0:08:25.755     33,871 kbps     53,816 kbps     00:15:02.192    39,079 kbps     00:15:51.241    37,085 kbps     00:12:00.094    176,586 bytes   853,063 bytes   00:15:19.668    
3               0:16:10.219     0:07:41.669     33,915 kbps     51,413 kbps     00:18:58.345    39,524 kbps     00:17:31.425    37,064 kbps     00:20:34.900    176,819 bytes   963,195 bytes   00:22:26.887    
4               0:23:51.888     0:08:35.014     34,058 kbps     52,840 kbps     00:25:48.797    39,828 kbps     00:29:26.139    36,890 kbps     00:29:25.430    177,561 bytes   836,885 bytes   00:23:53.807    
5               0:32:26.903     0:09:47.461     34,014 kbps     58,017 kbps     00:39:13.350    39,081 kbps     00:37:01.552    36,792 kbps     00:37:12.605    177,333 bytes   919,524 bytes   00:36:22.680    
6               0:42:14.365     0:08:13.993     33,319 kbps     55,923 kbps     00:44:54.566    39,156 kbps     00:44:33.420    36,885 kbps     00:46:34.082    173,708 bytes   833,997 bytes   00:46:14.313    
7               0:50:28.358     0:11:24.016     33,549 kbps     57,860 kbps     00:51:48.271    39,331 kbps     00:56:13.036    37,022 kbps     00:55:54.267    174,907 bytes   842,045 bytes   00:50:46.126    
8               1:01:52.375     0:11:17.843     33,909 kbps     51,947 kbps     01:06:11.676    39,686 kbps     01:06:09.507    37,021 kbps     01:11:37.918    176,785 bytes   804,280 bytes   01:06:51.007    
9               1:13:10.219     0:09:09.632     33,955 kbps     58,485 kbps     01:22:17.307    39,428 kbps     01:17:14.046    37,154 kbps     01:17:11.418    177,028 bytes   726,591 bytes   01:20:58.478    
10              1:22:19.851     0:11:19.637     33,688 kbps     55,576 kbps     01:31:05.793    39,887 kbps     01:31:34.614    36,886 kbps     01:33:21.721    175,632 bytes   974,799 bytes   01:22:22.771    
11              1:33:39.488     0:09:15.429     34,108 kbps     50,746 kbps     01:39:04.438    39,458 kbps     01:40:49.710    36,933 kbps     01:35:36.564    177,826 bytes   867,986 bytes   01:42:31.895    
12              1:42:54.918     0:09:16.973     33,613 kbps     53,139 kbps     01:48:00.724    39,431 kbps     01:48:07.439    37,208 kbps     01:48:07.564    175,245 bytes   867,114 bytes   01:46:23.668    
13              1:52:11.891     0:10:21.454     33,949 kbps     50,485 kbps     01:57:16.362    39,523 kbps     01:56:48.126    36,622 kbps     01:52:27.657    176,993 bytes   959,228 bytes   02:01:56.434    
14              2:02:33.345     0:05:17.317     9,821 kbps      59,517 kbps     02:07:44.281    32,097 kbps     02:07:43.739    22,651 kbps     02:04:46.854    51,202 bytes    711,778 bytes   02:04:46.061    
15              2:07:50.662     0:00:01.001     111 kbps        0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    605 bytes       827 bytes       02:07:50.829    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     7671.539                32,811                  31,463,512,908  171,104,426     
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            TrueHD          jpn (Japanese)          7671.539                4,839                   4,639,857,392   30,949,546      
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             jpn (Japanese)          7671.539                192                     184,120,320     1,198,700       
00001.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             jpn (Japanese)          7671.539                192                     184,120,320     1,198,700       
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7671.539                25                      24,163,084      140,515         
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          7671.539                2                       2,273,389       12,665          
00001.M2TS      6912 (0x1B00)   0x1B            AVC                                     7671.539                635                     609,152,130     3,339,352
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:52 PM
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Some screencaps #1:





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Old 10-10-2009, 12:11 AM
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Some screencaps #2:





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I watched the movie last night and really enjoyed the visuals and audio aspects. The movie has really great visuals, blending CGI with real live action and there's a lot of artistic use of enhanced colors and contrast. The PQ has very good level of detail, though some scenes are a little softer than others just because of the heavy stylization. The story was a bit hard to follow without English subs as it's quite complex and uses many historical characters and old style language.

I hope to be able to watch it again with English subs sometime later on.

I hope Nero Showtime caps got the colors right, it's fairly hard to say as they are so enhanced, but everything looked quite marvelous on my main display. Audio is really strong too.
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Thanks for the info/pics! I'll get this as Casshern is one of my favourite BDs. Would like to watch it with subs first though.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:15 AM
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Thanks for the info/pics! I'll get this as Casshern is one of my favourite BDs. Would like to watch it with subs first though.
I think English subs will be found sooner or later

This disc had also a PIP video commentary by the director and some interviews, and a bunch of trailers and TV spots. Also some background information in text form explaining all the involved historical characters etc. in the extras but only in Japanese. Pretty solid release except for the lack of English subs.
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One more set of screencaps:





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Thanks a lot for the screencaps! Can't wait for a subtitled version.
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Looks like subscene.com has now English subs for Goemon (in 2 parts). Great

EDIT: The timings of those subs look pretty much identical to corresponding Japanese subtitle timings on the Japanese Blu-ray so these are easy to use. I joined the subtitles from the 2 files with Subtitle Workshop (without automatically modifying timestamps in the process) and afterwards added delay of 01:05:22,989 to subs from line 709 to end. That should pretty much do it in comparison to Japanese disc's timestamps.

First line in 2nd part becomes:

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709
01:05:27,169 --> 01:05:30,139
We're at war!
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:16 PM
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That's good to know, havn't actually got the disc yet but will order it soon.
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Note that you'll need to use something like Subtitle Workshop to add appropriate line breaks to longer lines of dialogue to fit them onscreen.
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So this is as bad as "Casshern"? So over the top with CGI it will almost make me sick? "Casshern" was just way overkill.
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Note that you'll need to use something like Subtitle Workshop to add appropriate line breaks to longer lines of dialogue to fit them onscreen.
Thanks for the tip, I hadn't paid attention to the line lengths as usually .srt subs have already linebreaks in appropriate places. I'll have to check them and do some editing before I finalize it for watching.
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So this is as bad as "Casshern"? So over the top with CGI it will almost make me sick? "Casshern" was just way overkill.
Yeah, as you hated Casshern I think you wouldn't like this one either as this also has a lot of CGI in somewhat similar style, but on a bigger budget.
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