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    Default Raise the Red Lantern & Farewell My Concubine coming in France 9/23

    These seem to be coming from from D'Vision (not a familiar studio to me from before), may not be English friendly but I'm surely picking them up. Interesting red cases too.

    Amazon FR:
    2011/09/23 23,51 Epouses Et Concubines [Blu-ray] -- DVISN
    2011/09/23 23,51 Adieu Ma Concubine [Blu-ray] -- DVISN

    This site indicates Mandarin and French DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio tracks and French subs.
    http://www.ecranlarge.com/dvd-details-12223.php
    http://www.ecranlarge.com/dvd-details-12225.php

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    [QUOTE=kannisto;2197101]. Interesting red cases too.



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    Yes, reminded me of HD DVD cases

    I'm especially interested in seeing Raise the Red Lantern in full HD, but not quite sure how these will look. Hopefully they have some good master available.

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    Great news! Raise the Red Lantern is my favourite Zhang Yimou movie. The Korean DVD that I've got has very poor PQ, this BD should be a lot better anyway.

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    I just got these the other day, forgot to pre-order so I ordered them last weekend. This time I used the express shipping method, it was 25 EUR or so for 4 discs and they arrived in 2 packages in 2-3 days. Normal rate shipping to Japan for 4 discs would be around 18 EUR too (if the shipping fees haven't changed recently) so this option was actually quite good. Some of my packages from France have taken very long so I wanted to try the faster method. Some screencaps and BD info scans coming up.

    The actual cases were not red after all but dark brown instead.

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    Default BD info scan: Raise the Red Lantern

    Code:
                                                                                                                    Total   Video                                             
    Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
    -----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
    (FR) Raise the Red Lantern                                      AVC     2:04:40 27,928,442,880  31,263,754,480  29.87   25.00   LPCM 2.0 1536Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
    Code:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Title:     BDROM
    Disc Size:      31,263,754,480 bytes
    Protection:     AACS
    BD-Java:        No
    BDInfo:         0.5.6
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00000.MPLS
    Length:                 2:04:40 (h:m:s)
    Size:                   27,928,442,880 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          29.87 Mbps
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        25000 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    LPCM Audio                      Chinese         1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
    LPCM Audio                      French          1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
    
    SUBTITLES:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Presentation Graphics           French          20.978 kbps                     
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:04:40.166     27,928,442,880  29,869          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
    Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
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    Default BD info scan: Farewell My Concubine

    This one is unfortunately a 1080i50 release.

    Code:
                                                                                                                    Total   Video                                             
    Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
    -----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
    (FR) Farewell My Concubine                                      AVC     2:44:25 30,409,390,080  37,599,101,724  24.66   20.00   LPCM 2.0 1536Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
    Code:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Title:     ADIEU_MA_CONCUBINE
    Disc Size:      37,599,101,724 bytes
    Protection:     AACS
    BD-Java:        No
    BDInfo:         0.5.6
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00000.MPLS
    Length:                 2:44:25 (h:m:s)
    Size:                   30,409,390,080 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          24.66 Mbps
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        19999 kbps          1080i / 25 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    LPCM Audio                      Chinese         1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
    LPCM Audio                      French          1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit
    
    SUBTITLES:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Presentation Graphics           French          25.409 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           French          1.958 kbps                      
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:44:25.640     30,409,390,080  24,659          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
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    In summary, both discs are region free (though the cases show the region B symbol) BD50 discs. Both cases claim that they are from new masters HD 1080p, but only Raise the Red Lantern is encoded in 1080p24. Farewell My Concubine is encoded in 1080i50, but it looks like it's using progressive frames. Both discs have original Chinese and French LPCM 2.0 audio tracks. The menus on the discs enforce French subs when the Chinese audio is selected, but the subs are not hardcoded into the video image so they can be removed on PC. The PQ on these discs looks reasonably good at a glance on PC, at least as good as I was expecting. I haven't yet watched the movies on my main setup, need to do some subtitle work first.

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    Thanks! The PQ of Raise the Red Lantern seems quite good and actually a lot better than I expected considering how bad my DVD looks. Lossless audio is nice too. Shame about the forced subtitles, at least they can be removed on a PC.

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    For Raise the Red Lantern it looks like there are English subs already timed for the Blu-ray version at subscene posted by njjy. The timings on those seemed pretty good with my tools, but just in case I made a 2nd subtitle option with -0.1 s applied across all subs for my remux. Need to observe which is better while watching the movie, though there's probably hardly any noticeable difference.

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