Oppo BDP-83 playback problems thread

[krammer]

Have you contacted Oppo CS.

I'm sure they'ed not only create a beta firmware specifically for your problem but also give you some American government cheese.

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by ttn234

Can you switch back and forth to compare coaxial digital cable/hdmi/analog outputs on your receiver? If you hear the difference in loudness (I think almost double in dB) then the problem is in Oppo. If not, maybe it's my receiver. Make sure that it is regular CD (stereo only, no problem with dvd-a/sacd or dvd movie which has 5.1/7.1) and using bitstream (not PCM, no problem with PCM). Can someone else help me to do the same test? Thanks for any help.
I still think it's Oppo's problem. Maybe it's in the part of sending out bitstream has a defect with the newest firmware update. The receiver doesn't have any reason to change the volume of the input sound (I checked all of the options in my B&K 507 s2 and in the Oppo's player to make sure nothing is wrong).

I switched between HDMI and coaxial and the volume was, to my ears, equal. I was listening to a film score on CD, so the volume is pretty dynamic, but there was no real difference that I could tell. I played the CD in stereo first and then changed to surround processing; the results were the same.

I have the latest firmware in my player as well, so the firmware is not the problem.

It works perfectly well with my player and processor combination.

[ttn234]

Originally Posted by krammer

Have you contacted Oppo CS.

I'm sure they'ed not only create a beta firmware specifically for your problem but also give you some American government cheese.

I contacted Oppo. They answered my email right back and point the finger to the receiver without checking to see there is any problem with Oppo. The same thing when I asked them Monster's optical cable when disconnect it pulled out the optical output's cover. They said that Monster didn't make optical cable to a correct specs. They suggested me to buy from Monoprice. I know that Monster's advertisement are a hype, but they are OK to use. I used Monster's cable with other players without damage optical outputs.

[vinnie97]

That claim about Monster sounds suspect at best. If Oppo told you that, I'm unimpressed; disappointed even.

[krammer]

Monster cables, not just optical, seem out of spec to me. The worst I remember was when I used component connections. Monster ones have a twist counter-clockwise lock. Sure its no biggie plugging the cable in, try to get it out. I currently use a Monster optical cable for my xbox 360 sound. It looks average & not out of spec. I did see other ones at a higher price range that were shaped differently. I use HDMI Monster's as well. Not because I think they provide a better image than Monoprice but because the cable itself is nearly indestructible.

I pulled the optical connection out of an old Panny DVD player using a monster cable tos as well. I think thats the last time I used that connection.. besides xbox sound.

[ttn234]

Originally Posted by IceNine

I switched between HDMI and coaxial and the volume was, to my ears, equal. I was listening to a film score on CD, so the volume is pretty dynamic, but there was no real difference that I could tell. I played the CD in stereo first and then changed to surround processing; the results were the same.

I have the latest firmware in my player as well, so the firmware is not the problem.

It works perfectly well with my player and processor combination.

CD media is not a problem. The problem I have is listening to a regular music CD (recorded in stereo) with a bitstreams output. If I listen to a SACD/DVD-A (they are in a CD also, but in DTS or other 5.1 format like Diana Krall's Love Scenes in DTS), there is no problem at all. If you have a movie on a CD, it think it's OK (I never try). It seems the problem is created when BDP-83 tries to process CDA format.

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by ttn234

CD media is not a problem. The problem I have is listening to a regular music CD (recorded in stereo) with a bitstreams output. If I listen to a SACD/DVD-A (they are in a CD also, but in DTS or other 5.1 format like Diana Krall's Love Scenes in DTS), there is no problem at all. If you have a movie on a CD, it think it's OK (I never try). It seems the problem is created when BDP-83 tries to process CDA format.

I was listening to a commercially-produced music CD soundtrack. The exact disc was Danny Elfman's score to Edward Scissorhands.

The disc number is MCAD-10133
Bar code: 008811013325

It is a regular, stereo music CD.

[ttn234]

Originally Posted by IceNine

I was listening to a commercially-produced music CD soundtrack. The exact disc was Danny Elfman's score to Edward Scissorhands.

The disc number is MCAD-10133
Bar code: 008811013325

It is a regular, stereo music CD.

Thanks for your help. I thought you said "a film score on CD" . Did you set bitstreams on the players and only change surround/stereo on your receiver because with PCM setting there isn't any problem whether you set surround/stereo? I think there is 2 cases for me: either the player or receiver has a problem. I still lean towards the player because other players play without problem.

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by ttn234

Thanks for your help. I thought you said "a film score on CD" . Did you set bitstreams on the players and only change surround/stereo on your receiver because with PCM setting there isn't any problem whether you set surround/stereo? I think there is 2 cases for me: either the player or receiver has a problem. I still lean towards the player because other players play without problem.

I just checked my player again and it is definitely set to bitstream.

Do you have another processor or receiver that you can connect the BDP-83 to in order to test it? I suspect that the problem lies with the receiver, but we could narrow it down if you can connect it to another processor. Perhaps you can take it to a friend's house and see if you have better luck.

[ttn234]

Originally Posted by IceNine

I just checked my player again and it is definitely set to bitstream.

Do you have another processor or receiver that you can connect the BDP-83 to in order to test it? I suspect that the problem lies with the receiver, but we could narrow it down if you can connect it to another processor. Perhaps you can take it to a friend's house and see if you have better luck.

I think that's best idea. I'll do it this weekend if I can.

[IceNine]

Originally Posted by ttn234

I think that's best idea. I'll do it this weekend if I can.

Did you have any luck?

[ttn234]

Originally Posted by IceNine

Did you have any luck?

I didn't have time now to check it. I'll do it when I can. I'll post the result. However, I still think the problem is Oppo's player. Oppo said that they have problem with one of the option allow Dolby 5.1 output (in earlier firmware), so they turn it off in this new firmware. I tried both coaxial/optical output. They have same problem. If I use hdmi output to TV and then from TV use optical output to receiver (my receiver doesn't have hdmi input), the sound is OK. To me, it means Oppo's hdmi output is OK, and Oppo's optical/coaxial outputs have a problem.