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  1. #46
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    Short of a random problem here or there, like anything you are able to update, all firmware for this unit are pretty safe to use. You should def update, as that movie does require an update to play, if you are behind on firmware.
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  2. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by syndicate View Post
    I brought T2 Judgment Day Skynet Edition Blu-Ray on Tuesday, got home put it in my Pioneer Blu-Ray player and it load or read so much for like maybe 5-8 seconds.Then when it gets to 2 1 000:000, it get stuck there or it would not go on. On the HDTV screen it would say Search 2-1 when I push foward or skip. So I took it out try two of my other Blu-Rays Public Enemies and a James Bond one. They had no problems the part where say or means loading showed up and it went on to the menu screen and played the movie. I even tried my friend's copy, which he got last year and still the same problem.

    But when he played his copy on his PS3 there are no problems at all. I have no problem with my Reservoir Dog Blu-Ray which is also from Lionsgate on my Pioneer Blu-Ray player. Could it be I have to update my player. All my other Blu-Rays are working find with no problems, the T2 is the first and only one so far I have problems with.

    Should I update with the latest firmware, are there any problems after doing that. I CAN'T remember, but I think I saw a forum where someon did that and it had some kind of problem, and he or she had to sent it to get it fix. It not one of those you can fix yourself. Don't know what version is it.

    I sure don't want to have to go through that at all.
    I know when I purchased this title when it first came out it took awhile trying to find an internet connection after that it would play audio but not show video. A firmware update fixed the issue and also sped up the loading time for the internet connection search. My copy works fine. I would try a firmware update, I believe 1.65 is the latest. If you still can't get it to work then chalk it up to a bad disc.
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    I take it the latest version would fix the problem, I don't need to go one or two version back. I saw on another forum it said which fixes what and so on.
  4. #49
    I updated my Pioneer with the latest Firmware, now the T2 Blu-Ray works. But it still a little slow or takes longer getting to the part where it say loading. Even that part that say loading takes longer then other Blu-Rays like Public Enemies, Casino Royale and Planet Earth.
    Last edited by syndicate; 07-02-2010 at 11:30 PM.
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    Anybody have trouble with Hot Tub Time Machine? My Pioneer HATES it. It'll play fine, then after a while the screen will distort at the top and bottom and get choppy. Meanwhile the audio plays fine. Never seen anything like it. I tried the disc in 4 other players around the house and they play it without a hitch. Have latest firmware, too. This is the only disc it's done it on, and it's very random, sometimes it'll play fine, other times it'll trip up. Weird.
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    I just read this entire thread, and I must say that I ain't sure how reliable that player really is.
    But I might be wrong. And is that an older model anyway?
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  7. #52
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    it is an outstanding player built in 2008..most are from Japan, a handful are from China and needed to be sent back to Pioneer for hardware fix,,see site for serial numbers of effected units
    slow loading but super audio via high end Wolson dacs and excellent up conversion of sd dvds

    Try cleaning the disc, I am waiting for netflix, the SOBs, to release for rental

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    Quote Originally Posted by punisher View Post
    it is an outstanding player built in 2008..most are from Japan, a handful are from China and needed to be sent back to Pioneer for hardware fix,,see site for serial numbers of effected units
    slow loading but super audio via high end Wolson dacs and excellent up conversion of sd dvds

    Try cleaning the disc, I am waiting for netflix, the SOBs, to release for rental

    in my HT:
    Pioneer Pro Elite 111fd
    Pioneer elite 23fd
    Pioneer BDP 51fd

    sold 4 51fd and 1 elite 05 players...kept one, too good to let go

    for info on Pioneer 51 fd and elite 05 fd players:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1054927
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  9. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by punisher View Post
    it is an outstanding player built in 2008..most are from Japan, a handful are from China and needed to be sent back to Pioneer for hardware fix,,see site for serial numbers of effected units
    slow loading but super audio via high end Wolson dacs and excellent up conversion of sd dvds

    Try cleaning the disc, I am waiting for netflix, the SOBs, to release for rental

    in my HT:
    Pioneer Pro Elite 111fd
    Pioneer elite 23fd
    Pioneer BDP 51fd

    sold 4 51fd and 1 elite 05 players...kept one, too good to let go

    for info on Pioneer 51 fd and elite 05 fd players:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1054927
    I would agree. I really rated my 51FD. I only replaced it with an even more capable Pioneer player - the BDP-LX91.
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  10. #55

    Default Blu-ray disc Problem, Can't Play Disc, Unknown Disc


    In mid March I got Apocalypse Now 2-Disc Blu-ray. when I put it in my Pioneer BDP-51FD Blu-ray player it wouldn't play it. It would have the sound trying to load it. After a bit of doing the loading a message comes on the TV screen saying Can't play disc. I open and close it same thing. Also the Blu-ray player's little screen has the message saying Unknown disc. So I took it out and put in T2 Judgment Day Skynet Edition Blu-Ray, it is also released by Lionsgate. Since it takes longer to load up. You don't know is there problems again even after since updating the firmware last year. There was no problems at all for the T2 blu-ray. So I took it out and put Apocalypse Now back in it worked. Since then I have not played it again.

    So today I put the Blu-ray of True Grit (remake) and the same thing happen. so I'm thinking update the firmware. So I go to see does Pioneer have a new one on their site. Which they do and I follow on what to do to get it and load it on the player. After updating the firmware, still the same thing happen with the same messages happen. So I put in Apocalypse Now to see does it have the problem again, and it does. Now I put in T2 to see does it work and it still do. So I take it out and try those two again, and still the same problem happens. Then I told myself try Face/Off, since it is also released by Paramount. That worked, so I took it out put back in True Grit still the same problem. I gave Apocalypse Now one more try same problem still happen.

    So what is the problem and how to fix it?

    Is it a manufacturing problem where 8000 disc are made and one or two out of it has problems on Blu-ray players?

    Is it that certain Blu-ray player models from Pioneer, Sony, LG, Samsung, Panasonic and Vizo don't like certain disc when being loaded?

    Should I return True Grit and get a new one or just get a refund, depending on which is really the problem. I can't return Apocalypse Now to get a refund or a new one since it more then 90 days. And I didn't know the problem would come back?

    So what to do and has anyone have this kind of problem before, and how did you fix it?
    Last edited by syndicate; 06-16-2011 at 09:29 AM.

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