The BLU-RAY format will never replace the DVD format unless BLU-RAY recorders appear.

[David Susilo]

I care about blu-ray recorders (I currently own 3 DVD recorders). However, their availability are not going to impede blu-ray growath because most people are using those units only as time-shifting unit and not as a disc recorder.

I'd like to use my standalone blu-ray recorder to transfer all of my LaserDisc to blu-ray using compression other than MPEG2. Even they're still in standard def. The same goes with my family home videos (there are about 30 of them).

[JSmith]

What we need is a physical, portable and infinitely rerecordable media that can handle all video formats and resolutions all the way up to 3 hours worth of 1080p with 24-bit 192khz audio.

I am guessing this wouldnt happen though because. BD and DVD disc sales would likely drop substantially.

[CorruptedDragon]

I don't think recorders would make a difference at all. I thought the analogy on page 1 was pretty much perfect. What's holding back BD from replacing DVD is the mass public. They see a car. They don't care if it looks better or has extra features, they just want to drive it and get to where they are going. For them, DVD does this.
I have so many friends that say they "don't see the difference". I assume they are just blind, but so many people just don't care about PQ. They just want to see the movie and that's it.
Hell, I can't tell you how many people's houses I've gone over where they are raving about this new big screen tv they bought and how amazing it looks....and it's hooked up with just coax or even just the one yellow video cable.
So no, I don't think recorders will make a difference. The public sees a disc and thinks it's a dvd and thats it. I've seen stores advertise "Blu-Ray DVDS" and people ask if stores carry "Blu-Ray DVDS". I think the fact that they look identical to the average person hurts it in some ways.

I've been harrassing my boss here at work to buy a BD player for the past 4 years. Her and her husband spent all this money on a new TV and still watch DVDS. I typically give them the DVD's out of my new BD's that I buy (since I have no use for a DVD in my house, BD players in all room!)and they think it's fine.

I also can't tell you how many times I walk into the living room and my wife is watching HBO....SD. I am always like ARGH what are you doing? And she goes " I know I know , it's not HD, but I don't care!"

There is no hope for humanity.............

[JSmith]

I don't think recorders would make a difference at all. I thought the analogy on page 1 was pretty much perfect. What's holding back BD from replacing DVD is the mass public. They see a car. They don't care if it looks better or has extra features, they just want to drive it and get to where they are going. For them, DVD does this.
I have so many friends that say they "don't see the difference". I assume they are just blind, but so many people just don't care about PQ. They just want to see the movie and that's it.
Hell, I can't tell you how many people's houses I've gone over where they are raving about this new big screen tv they bought and how amazing it looks....and it's hooked up with just coax or even just the one yellow video cable.
So no, I don't think recorders will make a difference. The public sees a disc and thinks it's a dvd and thats it. I've seen stores advertise "Blu-Ray DVDS" and people ask if stores carry "Blu-Ray DVDS". I think the fact that they look identical to the average person hurts it in some ways.

I've been harrassing my boss here at work to buy a BD player for the past 4 years. Her and her husband spent all this money on a new TV and still watch DVDS. I typically give them the DVD's out of my new BD's that I buy (since I have no use for a DVD in my house, BD players in all room!)and they think it's fine.

I also can't tell you how many times I walk into the living room and my wife is watching HBO....SD. I am always like ARGH what are you doing? And she goes " I know I know , it's not HD, but I don't care!"

There is no hope for humanity.............

Videophiles are, and always have been a very small niche market. It is exactly the same deal with Audiophiles.

I totally agree with you. I have gone into electronics stores and seen many big screen HD tvs hooked up with the cheapest component cable imaginable all running from a single feed (probably for a PC through the back) The cable and satellite companies in the UK compress the colour to a point where colour banding is obvious (even to me) and the resolution is still only 1080i.

The retailers are going to have to show the consumer exactly what Blu-Ray is capable of, instead of just feeding the customers the marketing bullshit in the store.

They dont have to use reference cables or high end equipment to do that.