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    Before Blu-Ray recorders can become a viable option in the household, the pricing of the blank disks need to drop drastically! Average prices for a 25GB BD-R is currently around the $5-7 range at Meritline.com and about $30 avg. for the 50GB.

    I have a LG GGW-H20L burner in my Mac and another in my PC, but due to blank disc pricing, they're not being used nearly as much as I thought they would a year after the format war was "officially" over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
    Yes, and if a tree falls in the forest with no one around, does anybody care?
    That made me laugh

    As already stated, DVDs became successful without recorders around. So what if people carry on using DVD recorders (which are widely available in the UK and Europe along with DVD/HDD recorders), again as already stated VHS recorders only stopped being made a few years ago.

    Blu-Ray recorders are extremely popular in Japan as far as I was aware? ... Blu-ray Recorder Sales Surpass DVD in Japan
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    Im waiting for a Blu Ray recorder to come to the North American market, so I can have it replace my DVD recorder. I WANT to be able to record in HiDef and I want to be able to archive that recording onto media that can be watched in the future. Only a Blu Ray recorder can do that. They claim that the US market wouldn't support a Blu Ray recorder. My bet is its more to do with copyright issues then anything.
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    This is probably true plus blueray players must go down in price
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo Lugo View Post
    Why should the DVD dissappear?

    I can see both co-existing happily. Nothing wrong with that. For me, Blu-Ray is now the benchmark for a premium product, while DVD is the standard, set to appeal the rest of the market.

    In my case, specifically, I want to buy the premium product. But I do realize most people don't feel that way.
    Exactly. Just the way I feel. Actually most level-headed, non-fanboys feel this way too.
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    The OP is so far off base I almost wonder if it isn't some kind of techno-trolling. The introduction of Blu-ray recorders would increase overall sales by like 3%. The things holding it back are mainly price and performance, followed by selection.
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    The Blu-ray format will be 6 years old within a few months. It is ridiculous that no standalone Blu-ray recorders exist in the United States market for the consumer market yet. The only option in the United States for consumer Blu-ray recorders is computer drives. One can install a Blu-ray recorder computer drive into their computer and record HDTV programs from live TV or dub from HD camcorder to the computer BD-R drive.

    Many consumers will keep purchasing 480i DVD recorders at Walmart and rent movies on DVD and bypass the Blu-ray format since a standalone Blu-ray recorder does not exist in the United States yet.

    The following are just a few of the 480i DVD recorders that consumers are purchasing at Walmart



    Magnavox MDR515H/F7 500GB HDD and DVD-R with Digital Tuner

    Magnavox MDR-513H/F7 320GB DVR and DVD Recorder

    Magnavox ZC320MW8 Multi-Format DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW Recorder, Refurbished

    Magnavox ZC320MW8B DVD Recorder with Line-In Recording

    Toshiba Refurbished DVD Recorder, DR430


    Also now blank D-VHS and blank S-VHS tapes are no longer in production from JVC and all other manufactories (standard blank VHS tapes are still being made for a limited time). Back in 2004 the 1080i D-VHS format was a popular niche format to record HD programs on.

    http://store.jvc.com/product.asp?Model=df-300

    http://store.jvc.com/product.asp?Model=df-420
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDTV1080P View Post
    Many consumers will keep purchasing 480i DVD recorders at Walmart and rent movies on DVD and bypass the Blu-ray format since a standalone Blu-ray recorder does not exist in the United States yet.
    Nobody cared about Blu-ray recorders when you started this thread three years ago. Nobody cares now. The lack of Blu-ray recorders has manifestly not impeded the growth of the Blu-ray format. Your insistence that it will seems borderline delusional at this point.
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    Everyone I know has a DVD player. Not a single one of them is DVD recorder capable.

    I know not one person that has a DVD recorder.

    In the US no one cared about DVD recorders just like no one would care about a bluray recorder. Recorders have had nothing to do with the success of either format.
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    Blu-ray recorders are very popular in Japan and other areas on the world. Unless someone releases a standalone Blu-ray recorder in the United States to test the market, companies will never know how big the demand is. It could end up being very popular in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDTV1080P View Post
    Blu-ray recorders are very popular in Japan and other areas on the world. Unless someone releases a standalone Blu-ray recorder in the United States to test the market, companies will never know how big the demand is. It could end up being very popular in the United States.
    DVD recorders have been released in this market. They have sold very poorly, because no one here wants them. American viewers prefer to time-shift TV programs using a DVR, and rip video discs using a computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo Lugo View Post
    Why should the DVD dissappear?

    I can see both co-existing happily. Nothing wrong with that. For me, Blu-Ray is now the benchmark for a premium product, while DVD is the standard, set to appeal the rest of the market.

    In my case, specifically, I want to buy the premium product. But I do realize most people don't feel that way.

    Further, I see the investment required and understand why.
    I will be very happy if both Blu-rays and Dvds are around for a while. I like both of them. I still use both. I still purchase dvds at times like when I really want a movie and it's not out on Blu-rays. Also sometimes even if a movies is out on Blu-ray the Dvd might have bonus stuff that is not on the Blu-ray. I also have lots of tv shows on Dvd.
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    I cant think of anything on tv that would be worth recording.
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    I have a DVD recorder and several D-VHS VCRs but don't really record anything using either type of recorder now. TiVos and a PC running PlayLater do the only timeshifting I need. I don't think I would be interested in a Blu-ray recorder now. I do plan to continue to play Blu-ray/DVD-V/CD/SACD/DVD-A the rest of my life and probably won't ever have a music server or movies saved on a hard drive, other than TiVo and PlayLater, although I do use internet streaming quite a lot more than I thought I would. Internet streaming is pretty lame compared to disc in terms of quality for the most part but the convenience factor is really good. All of it adds up to no interest in recording to removable media any longer. I do have CDs recorded to CD-R for portable player and auto use but that is the only disc recording I need now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDTV1080P View Post
    Standalone VHS recorders did not go out of production until a few years ago.
    New VHS releases did. That's the whole point here, right?
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