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    Quote Originally Posted by Laba0581 View Post
    With Blu-Ray having a hi end option like this and HD DVD not is just another example why Blu-Ray is the way to go.
    HD DVD also has a high-end offering on the way from Onkyo.
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    For $2k it should play both formats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post
    HD DVD also has a high-end offering on the way from Onkyo.
    That depends. Will it be under Onkyo's Intergra line or just Onkyo? Integra is their Hi end line like Elite is Pioneer's, and ES is Sony's. If it is just Onkyo I cannot see it being any better than the HDXA2. But we will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
    For $2k it should play both formats.
    Maybe in the 2nd gen Denon this will be true.

    I'm a little surprised this player seems to not have SACD & DVD-A as Denon has been one of the best Universal player makers for some time now, but as mentioned above maybe in gen 2.

    The price of this player does not seem to out of line to me as it fits in with typical Denon pricing. It's just hard to swallow when all the other blu-ray players can now be had for what $999 or less, most of which are $599 or less.

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    $2,000. The war is going to be over and they will sell 1.0 % of the player for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodin View Post
    since this is the first player to feature pip in bd, what happens to the other players when the movies with pip-feature get released? do we have to garbage the old bd players or what?
    No. The movie will play but you won't have PiP functions.
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    Pioneer was smart to price their first player at $1800 because a couple hundred more and now you have "$2000!"

    The PE player sold well, why not this Denon player with more features?
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    Denon stuff is fabulous. In my main viewing room I have the denon dvd-2930ci hooked to an AVR-3806 receiver. Looks and sounds phenomenal. I also have a seperate setup in my house where I have the HD-A2 for hd-dvd and the new Panasonic blu-ray player hooked up. Neither player can match the pq on standard dvd of my denon setup. 2000 is a chunk of change and you get what you pay for. The quality of the dvd player and amp I have are incredible... Build quality and quality of the components they put inside the devices.

    I am tempted myself to figure out how to sell of some of my equipment to afford the denon blu-ray player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
    For $2k it should play both formats.
    I second that.
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    Another note: Sound on the new systems. The 2k model will have decoders for every sound format old and new. So it has them all covered. The lower end model will have no decoders at all. Denon has listed it as a blu ray transport. So it will recognize and output through hdmi 1.3 all the next gen or current gen audio as bitsream. So you will spend less on the blu ray player but you will need to pair it with a receiver with hdmi 1.3 and has the decoders built into the receiver.
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    How come no ethernet port?
    They don't want you browsing the web when you should be playing movies.
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    Also for this price, ud think it would have the THX logo on it as well
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    I noticed in the picture in the Crave article that there are 8 (7.1) analog outputs on the back of the unit. This would mean that it will process the hi-def codecs internally and pump them into any receiver that has 8 analog inputs. So you don't need a receiver that will decode the bitstream to get truehd or dtsma. You just need a reciever with matching analog inputs and you bypass the decoder and dac in the receiver completely.

    I know everyone is into having an all digital pipeline -- the hdmi connection to the receiver, and then hdmi from receiver to monitor. But, I like those analogs there just in case.

    Do other bd players typically have all 8 analog audio outs like this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brack View Post

    Do other bd players typically have all 8 analog audio outs like this one?
    Just the Panasonic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brack View Post
    I noticed in the picture in the Crave article that there are 8 (7.1) analog outputs on the back of the unit. This would mean that it will process the hi-def codecs internally and pump them into any receiver that has 8 analog inputs. So you don't need a receiver that will decode the bitstream to get truehd or dtsma. You just need a receiver with matching analog inputs and you bypass the decoder and dac in the receiver completely....
    An excellent point. I despair of my upmarket Linn processor ever keeping up to date so I am all in favour of a player that does all necessary processing on board, with set up to stream out the number of analogue channels in that I can accept (5 in my case with Linn Kinos)
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