Oppo BDP-93 Networking Universal Blu-ray Player

[BettiePage]

why should he cripple his player? hope oppo can release a new (4k 3D) bd player this year that fixes this issue...

[HDTV1080P]

I have had good results with the OPPO BDP-93 and BD-LIVE on most Blu-ray discs (no loading issues). It’s just a few Showtime titles that the OPPO does not work with BD-LIVE. I wish Showtime would place the extra features for TV series on a dedicated Blu-ray disc, but instead they use BD-LIVE for some titles.
I am glad I have a Panasonic Blu-ray player to play those Showtime titles that the OPPO BDP-93 will not play.

[HDTV1080P]

Progress being made on the OPPO BDP-93 BD-LIVE issue with Showtime titles

OPPO Digital INC today has verified there is a problem on the way the OPPO BDP-93 handles BD-LIVE on select Blu-ray titles. Progress is being made now.

Quote from OPPO Digital INC

“We have confirmed that both Dexter Season 4 and Season 5 will not load with BD-LIVE Access being set to On on the BDP-93, while these two season load properly on the BDP-83.

We have updated our bug report database to reflect these findings.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.“

[Attebery]

I love this player. That is all.

[chris gerhard]

I love this player. That is all.

Same here but I haven't played any BD-Live content all year so I am glad somebody is helping Oppo keep up with issues because I keep on thinking at some point, I will actually use BD-Live, watch extras or trailers or whatever might be accessible.

[Splicer]

Personally, we like our LG BD570 better than the Oppo 93 as it is functionally more...functional...when it comes to youtube, netflix, pandora etc...Better interface, the only thing the 93 does the 570 can't is play SACD and DVD-A discs, neither of which I own any of anyway.

Still willing to give the 93 a chance, has Oppo released and FW updates to fix the long outstanding ridiculously priced machine that has been released for 2 years + now and still doesn't work as advertised?

[chris gerhard]

Personally, we like our LG BD570 better than the Oppo 93 as it is functionally more...functional...when it comes to youtube, netflix, pandora etc...Better interface, the only thing the 93 does the 570 can't is play SACD and DVD-A discs, neither of which I own any of anyway.

Still willing to give the 93 a chance, has Oppo released and FW updates to fix the long outstanding ridiculously priced machine that has been released for 2 years + now and still doesn't work as advertised?

Go ahead and list all of the players that can play SACD, DVD-A, HDCD and have analog 7.1 at a price less expensive than the Oppo BDP-93 if you think it is so ridiculously priced. Who cares if the LG BD570 is priced less, it isn't comparable, period. I have both the LG BD590 and Oppo BDP-93 and will call BS on any claim the LG player is better, it isn't true for audio and it isn't true for video, in fact it is false in both cases.

If you don't want the things the Oppo players do, then the the players are over priced and LG players are really good but for better DVD video quality and better CD audio quality and coverage of various formats the LG player won't recognize, the Oppo player is worth the premium and there is no price competition yet for the market that does want the things Oppo players do.

[David Susilo]

Yeah. So true. I'm not a big Oppo fan. But saying LG BD player being better than Oppo is delusional.

[Splicer]

Who cares if the LG BD570 is priced less, it isn't comparable, period. I have both the LG BD590 and Oppo BDP-93 and will call BS on any claim the LG player is better, it isn't true for audio and it isn't true for video, in fact it is false in both cases.

Yeah. So true. I'm not a big Oppo fan. But saying LG BD player being better than Oppo is delusional.

Here we go. Touched the fan boys nerves. The BD PQ is the SAME, neither is better than the other. The streaming on the Oppo is very poor and well documented so continue trying to belittle me, you just don't know what you are talking about. DLMA is better implemented on the 570 than the 93. Fact.

Who cares about analog out when there is an inaudible difference (numbers don't mean a damn thing when you can't discern such minute differences) when compared with HDMI, which by the way, you get the 95 if analog output is so important. SACD & DVD-A are formats long since outdated, hence the reason it never causght on. I already stated the LG cannot do this.

The audio quality comment I agree 100% as it is indeed better. But better on one area and so poor on every other is no reason to tout a player. Now, Netflix, Pandora etc are better on the LG plain and simple. Apps don't lock the player up. Remote commands are recognized and executed. DVD upconversion is handled easily as well thru my AVR ABT chip.

Funny how you ignore everything I said and yap about things I didn't say. Or care about. But no, there really is no reason beyond the 2-3 things the Oppo does the LG doesn't, and which things are pretty much elitest interests, which granted the Oppo is geared towards, to buy an Oppo IMHO. I have them both also and what I write about the 2 is absolutely true. The dropouts are insane and everyone claims handshake BS when absolkutely no other piece of equally highend quality ever displayed such behaviour. The handshake, while valid SOMETIMES, is more or less a cop out in this day and age when the technology has matured so quickly.



I just think such an expensive player should work as advertised or just don't advertise it that way. It isn't rocket science to get apps to work correctly. If it where, there wouldn't be a jillion apps out there now.

[David Susilo]

You've made my day . You quote my "I'm not a big fan of Oopo" yet you claim that I'm an Oppo fanboy. Hahahaha!!!

[Josh Z]

Who cares about analog out when there is an inaudible difference (numbers don't mean a damn thing when you can't discern such minute differences) when compared with HDMI,

You don't seem to understand the actual difference between using the analog outputs versus the HDMI output for audio. If you use the HDMI output, you transmit the raw digital bitstream for your receiver to decode and convert to analog. If you use the player's analog outputs, you rely on the player to decode and convert to analog. Whichever device has the superior DACs will deliver better audio quality. If the receiver has better DACs, use HDMI. If the receiver is a low-end model and the Blu-ray player has better DACs, use analog.

The audio quality comment I agree 100% as it is indeed better. But better on one area and so poor on every other is no reason to tout a player. Now, Netflix, Pandora etc are better on the LG plain and simple. Apps don't lock the player up. Remote commands are recognized and executed. DVD upconversion is handled easily as well thru my AVR ABT chip.

How well does LG handle the ever-changing HDCP issues on Blu-ray, and how often does LG issue firmware updates when, for example, a new Fox title won't play? Twice a year, maybe? Once? How well does LG support discontinued models with new firmware updates?

Both players have their strengths and weaknesses. If you want a cheap player that's good with Netflix, go LG. If you're willing to pay a little extra for a player that supports high-res audio and has frequent firmware updates for Blu-ray HDCP issues, go Oppo. To each their own.

For what it's worth, I don't use Netflix, but Oppo's VUDU app works perfectly fine for me.

[Splicer]

You don't seem to understand the actual difference between using the analog outputs versus the HDMI output for audio. If you use the HDMI output, you transmit the raw digital bitstream for your receiver to decode and convert to analog. If you use the player's analog outputs, you rely on the player to decode and convert to analog. Whichever device has the superior DACs will deliver better audio quality. If the receiver has better DACs, use HDMI. If the receiver is a low-end model and the Blu-ray player has better DACs, use analog.

No, I understand just fine...

How well does LG handle the ever-changing HDCP issues on Blu-ray, and how often does LG issue firmware updates when, for example, a new Fox title won't play? Twice a year, maybe? Once? How well does LG support discontinued models with new firmware updates?

I actually have had every BD play that we wanted to watch. No problems there. LG went thru several updates just recently, none of which I am too fond of and stick with the older, working perfectly fine, FW. I cannot rollback the Oppo from what I have been told, or I would have and there would be no issue.

Both players have their strengths and weaknesses. If you want a cheap player that's good with Netflix, go LG. If you're willing to pay a little extra for a player that supports high-res audio and has frequent firmware updates for Blu-ray HDCP issues, go Oppo. To each their own.

I certainly wouldn't cheapen it the way you have, not to mention I'd be sure to know the player(s) I am comparing. The minor strengths of the Oppo are far outweighed by the benefits (read - proper functionality) of the LG in my opinion. The films I watch, as I said, have all played as intended. There are no conflicts with the LG and I suspect the Oppo would fair as well.

For what it's worth, I don't use Netflix, but Oppo's VUDU app works perfectly fine for me.

Yes, we also had a decent experience with Vudu. We also use Netflix. And also Youtube. And DLNA. I like the Oppo layout of Netflix better. Also has a search by name function while the LG is search by suggestion only, which I found myself still using with the Oppo so that's a wash. Vudu is 1080p DD+ on both machines and both perform the same.

They pulled an app and have yet to decide when or even if it will ever be replaced. LG adds apps. Not a lot but how many isn't the issue at hand. The updating and excellent LG cust service (in my experience anyway) again is not an issue.

The Wi-Fi feature of both performed too similar to try to compare, they both worked very well as expected, tho the Oppo (and yes, I know WHY they did this so please do not try to explain to me about it) USB proprietary dongle would have been a serious issue if I had a closed back stand. As is however, all was fine.

I am not downing Oppo by any stretch of the imagination. But here as of now, the LG does best the 93 AS A WHOLE, and not necessarily any single feature.

[Splicer]

You've made my day . You quote my "I'm not a big fan of Oopo" yet you claim that I'm an Oppo fanboy. Hahahaha!!!

When you enter a conversation talking about things you are unaware of, to defend a brand you are "not a big fan of" makes you a fanboy. Glad to have ensured a good day for you.

[Splicer]

I don't knwh what I'm talking about. Funny. Have you even toured LG blu-ray manufacturing plant? I have. I guess I know just a tiiiiiny bit more than you. Why -km not a big fan of Oppo? They're, in my experience, unreliable and overpriced. But like many performance cars, performance is the key, not price point.

PS: reliability is not the only sign of quality. I guess from your perspective Toyota Camry is better than a Mercedes C250 4matic, or even a Lamborghini Murcielago LP640.

What ridiculous analogies you are using. But I can be idiotic also and go along with you. Yes, when the Toyota Camry gives as good of a ride as the Mercedes and performs as advertised when the Mercedes does not, then yes, the Toyota IS better. Only a fool would accept inferiority just because it is high priced over stability and reliablility. And then would continue on defending the inferior product because he "toured the factory" and feels like he knows everything about LG, the product and the way said product is being used. Classic! Just like the TV commercial, he isn't really a know it all, he just likes to play one on the internet.

[Josh Z]

Enough trolling this thread, please. This is a thread to discuss the workings of the Oppo BDP-93. If you don't like Oppo, this isn't a thread for you.